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What advice, what testimonies, what links do you offer the rest of us who are living or want to live the self sufficient lifestyle?  You do not have to be interested in Christian community or preparing for hard times to be qualified to share with this group.

 

By self-sufficient we mean having the ability to live independently from the world system like the Amish do, but with the liberty to use high tech techniques as well.  You are able to grow, store and prepare all the food your household will need— long term.  You will will have adequate housing, heating and cooling and lighting for your household that is self sustaining.  You will have your own water source and safe, sanitary sewage system. 

 

All these facilities can be old technology (Amish style, gas lamps, horse and buggy, green houses, hot beds) or very high tech (solar panels, wind generators, hydroponics), or a combination of old and new technology.

 

Your plans can include intentions to let needy people, or like minded people join you to make the work lighter, and so everyone can specialize.

 

Eventually (depending upon response/support) this forum will have a way to directly submit your input to this forum.  For now please send me an email with your letter and I will post it for you.  I am sure everyone will exhibit the best of manners (no inappropriate language or attitudes).   

 

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March 13th, 2008:  Handle: ArkHaven  Subject: Heirloom Seeds and Self Sufficient Living

May 15th, 2008:     Handle: His Agape Farm  Subject: Come See The Farm We Built

 

 

ArkHaven: I  found these doing a Google search on "heirloom seeds"

http://www.seedsavers.org/

http://www.rareseeds.com/

http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/main_vegies.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_2043809_find-heirloom-garden-seed.html?ref=fuel

 

While shopping at Ozark Natural Foods grocery store in April 2008  I visited a display outside the store of starter plants grown from heirloom seeds, all natural and organically grown.  The Couple who had grown the certified naturally grown starter plants and displayed them in their nicely done tent gave me some literature I want to share with you.  Read the "Certified Naturally Grown" statement at www.naturallygrown.org

 

CERTIFIED NATURALLY GROWN SEED SOURCES 2007

Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds

417-924-8917

www.RareSeeds.com

Bountiful Gardens

707-459-6410

www.bountifulgardens.org

FEDCO

207-459-6410

www.fedcoseeds.com

High Mowing Seeds

802-888-1800

www.highmowingseeds.com

High Country Gardens

800-925-9387

www.highcountrygardens.com

J. L. Hudson

Star Route 2, Box 337

La Honda, CA 94020

www.jlhudsonseeds.net

John Sheepers

860-567-6086

www.kitchengardenseed.com

Johnny's Garden seeds

800-854-2580

www.johnnyseeds.com

Nichols Garden Nursery

800-422-3985

www.nicholsgardennursery.com

Plant Natural

 

www.plantnatural.com

Sandhill Preservation Nursery

563-246-2299

www.sandhillpreservation.com

Seeds of Change

888-762-7333

www.seedsofchange.com 

Seed Savers Exchange

563-382-5990

www.seedsavers.org

Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

540-894-9480

www.southernexposure.com

Territorial Seeds

541-942-9547

www.territorialseeds.com

Thyme Garden

541-487-8671

www.thymegarden.com

Thompson and Morgan

800-274-7333

www.thompsonandmorgan.com 

Tomato Growers

888-478-7333

www.tomatogrowers.com

 

FURTHER WEBSITES OF INTEREST

 

www.localharvest.com to find local producers

www.organicconsumers.org

 

 

I found these doing a Google search on "none not hybrid seeds"

http://www.arkinstitute.com/index.htm

http://www.heirloomseeds.com/

 

Here are two magazines that may interest you.  I subscribed to them during all the 18 years I was gardening (before I turned to writing).  You have to see my http://www.arkhaven.org/about_author.htm page to get the whole story there.

http://www.organicgardeningmagazine.co.uk/

http://www.motherearthnews.com/

Here are some links I found using this search word phrase: "Self Sufficient Living"

http://pages.prodigy.net/jmiller.cb/slv.html

http://www.simpleselfsufficientliving.com/

http://www.infography.com/content/022977990574.html

http://www.self-sufficient-life.com/

 

 

The natural and organic method (used for thousands of years) is the only way you can garden if/when we can no longer buy chemicals, fertilizers, and gasoline.

 

Please share your favorite websites and book with us.  I got an email recommending this book.

 

Click on book cover to see listing on Amazon.comBook Description
The Self Sufficient Life and How to Live It is the only book that teaches all the skills needed to live independently in harmony with the land harnessing natural forms of energy, raising crops and keeping livestock, preserving foodstuffs, making beer and wine, basketry, carpentry, weaving, and much more. This new edition includes 150 new full color illustrations and a special section in which John Seymour the father of the back to basics movement explains the philosophy of self-sufficiency and its power to transform lives and create communities. More relevant than ever in our high-tech world, The Self Sufficient Life and How to Live It is the ultimate practical guide for realists and dreamers alike.

About the Author
John Seymour is the author of over 40 books, including The Complete Book of Self Sufficiency, The Forgotten Arts and Crafts, and has made numerous movies and radio programs devoted to rural matters, self-sufficiency, and the environment.

 

This link is to another book by this author: http://www.dorlingkindersley-uk.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780751364422,00.html

 

For an interesting insight into the type of pest control that was practiced during the time of Joseph, researchers refer to a quote by the 11th century Hebrew Bible commentator Rashi, who wrote: "And people put amongst the grain some of the earth of the place, and this prevents it from decaying." They believe Rashi was "referring to a method by which fine sand is added to the grain. The grains of sand scratch the hard covering that surrounds the body of the beetle, and make it dry up and die. This method is still used today by various African tribes, and we can assume that it was sufficiently effective to exterminate a pest that had just arrived in the region, like the lesser grain borer."

 

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Thursday, May 15th, 2008: His Agape Farm

 

Dear ArkHaven,

 

We hope you can add this to your forum page with the attached photos. Thank you for your prompt response. I know God hears all our prayers. Here goes: 

We found our property, in the lush area between forest and farmland, by taking a new road on the way home. It was overgrown and uncared for, but we were moved by what it could be so we signed on the dotted line.

 

We heard afterwards that this place has an exciting history. Indians that once lived in this valley named this area after the tall trees they called ‘chinquapin’. Our local church, Olivet Baptist, was once located on the front of the property, before relocating the entire building closer to our local town. Remains of the family cemetery are still nearby. The creek that bi-sects the parcel was named Job Creek Swale.


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Our family began work. We thinned tree stands, cleared a wide area for the main house and had a gravel drive put in. Every day we would dream about people enjoying this beautiful work of art that God brought into our lives. It is such a serene, quiet spot. Tall ponderosa pine line the perimeter and the creek, poplars and crab apples, wild rose, flowering grasses in the fields between. And the wildlife, especially in the early morning, and at dusk pull the beauty all together with a symphony of twitters and song. We’ve seen wood ducks in the creek, in the fields deer and elk cross, wild turkeys, and waves of Canadian geese traveling to the lake nearby. To us, it is truly an Eden.

 

Our dream for this wondrous haven is to have it visited by those who seek communion with God.  It is a quiet place to study, yet subtly surrounded by his creative genius. It could be a place where children could gather at the barn to study verse and learn how to care for animals. Where men could join together in a wood or steel project as they read His word about service and fellowship. A place where families or the solitary could come to rejuvenate and be still or rejoice in worship with musical instruments and voice. The soil here is good and visitors could help grow and gather the food we would bring to their meals.

 

New ideas come all the time. Unfortunately, we also had other building projects going on, as was our profession, and the housing market fall has left us giving away our other projects just to try and hold on. All this past few months God has provided us with a warm dry place to stay as we try to find financial aid to finish the house. We believe He has an investor out there that will be part of this plan to bring glory to His name. We also believe that these times we are in are His hand bringing about necessary change to bring His children closer. Let’s all rejoice in His will being accomplished.

 

The Staats family, Larry, Diane, Jewel and Crystal

 

His Agape Farm

 

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