This chapter is about Christian lifestyle Hungarian obstetrician Ignaz Semmelweis Jonas Salk polio vaccine dogmatic doctrinal stand Pentecostals are Evangelical

 

Chapter 8: 

 

Does God Speak
To Us Today

This chapter is about Christian lifestyle Hungarian obstetrician Ignaz Semmelweis Jonas Salk polio vaccine dogmatic doctrinal stand Pentecostals are Evangelical

Much of our lifestyle; much of what we hold dear to our hearts is cultural and traditional — things we never question. But God may be calling us to choose between our old traditions (old wine) and His way (new wine).

“I am Italian.” “I’m Native American.” “I am a Methodist.” “I’m Baptist.” “I am a Democrat.” “I’m a conservative.” “I am a Texan.” “I’m a mid-westerner.” We say these things with pride and confidence, and there is nothing wrong with that, until God tells us to choose between our old traditions and His way. Christ does not conform to our culture. We must conform to Him and the culture of His Kingdom.

Our belief that God does or does not speak to us today is — more often than not — a comfortable tradition that we grew up with and never questioned. Such views were birthed out of our experience (or lack of it), matured into our tradition, and instituted as our doctrine, thereby becoming our lifestyle.

We Evangelicals —and Pentecostals are Evangelical— like to think that the Scriptures must make a clear statement about an issue before we can take a dogmatic, doctrinal stand on it. Here is an analogy to help explain:

Conventional wisdom has always functioned on belief rather than fact. Belief will always win out in an argument, as it requires no proof, and it is immune to disproof. Although science clearly demonstrated that the earth is round, the belief that it is flat held sway for centuries, and those who threatened to upset the status quo were often jailed and tortured.

Nowhere is the dichotomy between belief and truth more evident than in medicine — and in theology. Hungarian obstetrician Ignaz Semmelweis’ insistence 150 years ago that physicians wash their hands before assisting women in labor to avoid the spread of “childbirth fever” was met with scorn and derision. Years later the medical establishment initially banned Jonas Salk’s polio vaccine.

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When Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) developed antiseptic surgery, many surgeons were deeply offended by Pasteur’s so-called proof that they were doing something wrong. These doctors were not stupid, and they were doing all they believed there was to do. It was just that Pasteur found a new medical procedure that was also an ancient truth begging to be put into practice.

The truth is . . . one will not practice truth until one first believes truth.

Of course, God foreordained the invention of antiseptic surgery eons before He formed the earth. So this was nothing new and controversial to God, just to the doctors of Pasteur’s generation.

However, since surgeons had practiced for centuries without antiseptics, experience (or tradition) dictated to them that the use of antiseptics was medical quackery. They might have said to themselves, “We don’t use antiseptics because we have never used antiseptics, and if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.”

Likewise, this analogy applies to a large number of Christians today. Many devout Christians have carried forth the Great Commission quite successfully — thank you — by using Scripture alone. Therefore, their experience and tradition dictate to them that the notion of God speaking to His people today is religious quackery.

Actually, these Christians are not deliberately practicing error. They just aren’t aware of —or don’t believe— all of the truth that God has made available to them (Mark 13:11).

Those nineteenth-century surgeons felt they had high-minded reasons why they should rejected Pasteur’s research, but their reasons were not scientific. They just sounded scientific.

Likewise, these well-meaning Christians have reasons that sound scriptural as to why they believe that God doesn’t speak outside of the Bible today. Actually their reasons, like those surgeons of Pasteur’s day, come from tradition and experience, and not from the Bible. Eventually, Pasteur’s newly discovered truth won out over a long-held medical tradition — and so will God’s voice.

THE CESSATIONIST VIEW

If you believe that God speaks to His own today (John 10:27) then you probably are not a cessationist, and vice-versa. A person who is not a cessationist is usually referred to as a continuationist, or non-cessationist.

The view that I am presenting here states that “the Holy Spirit era” (or church age) started on the day of Pentecost and will continue without change until the Second Coming of Jesus. In the upcoming chapter titled, Peter’s Definition of the Last Days, I will prove to you—conclusively—that we are in the Holy Spirit era.

The cessationist view states that God became silent and all miracles ceased when the last apostle died, and that we are now in “the Bible era” (so to speak). This view says: “Scripture alone speaks to us today.”

I am sure that there are fine Christians on both sides of this issue. However, I feel that many have accepted the “cessationist” view simply because the “Holy Spirit era” teaching has not been presented in the way it is presented here. And, if you already believe as I do, the following presentation will arm you with a scriptural basis for your faith.

John W. Kennedy presents the cessationist view eloquently in his excellent book on church history “The Torch of the Testimony.”2 This is his entire statement:

“The Church and the Scriptures developed together, and the church ultimately recognized in the truth of the written revelation her complete foundation. The Bible [I think he means the New Testament] is the expression of the divine Word, at one time spoken directly from the lips of Christ, and then through the apostles. The New Testament embodies the continuance of the apostolic ministry, the revelation of Christ that was completed with the committal to Paul of the mystery of the church (Col. 1:24-27). From this, it follows that the ministry of apostleship and prophecy as embodied in particular people was but a temporary expedient. It was vitally necessary during the transition period when the written Word was being formulated and was gaining acceptance among believers, but when the written Word was completed, the particular ministry of the apostle and the prophet became redundant, just as the observation of the Old Testament sacrifices had to give way to their fulfillment in Christ. The principle came into operation, “But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away” (1 Cor. 13:10). The function of the apostle and the prophet still exist, but embodied in the written Word, not in any man.”

Although John Kennedy inferred that miracles and prophecy disappeared along with the apostles and prophets, he didn’t say it specifically, as most cessationists do. However, Dr. Charles Caldwell Ryrie, Th.D., Ph.D., does in his Bible commentary. Here is his commentary on 1 Corinthians 13:11.

“After the church began, there was a period of immaturity, during which spectacular gifts were needed for growth and authentication (Heb. 2:3-4). With the completion of the New Testament and the growing maturity of the church, the need for such gifts disappeared.”

When Dr. Ryrie speaks of a period of immaturity, he is referring to the high water mark, the glory days of the church. To refer to this period as “immature” is to insinuate that the apostles and the authors of the New Testament were immature. Dr. Ryrie catches himself in a contradiction. By this logic, he should be able to pen for us a much more mature Scripture and doctrine than the writers of the New Testament gave us.

I ask a rhetorical question: Could the mature New Testament come out of an immature church?

In a coming chapter, Surprising Bible Manuscript History, we will dig deeper into this intriguing subject of “the completion of the New Testament” Dr. Ryrie spoke of.

This chapter has stated the cessationist view by quoting two notable authors who champion this view. Many books have been written promoting this view, but enough has been presented here to give a fair understanding of the cessationist view.

If you are interested in hearing an equally academic, and equally gracious (but opposing) discourse on what I call the continuationist view, please read the next chapter.

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